Steampunk Brass jeweled Filligree Ring

I just love the "base" for this ring and the oblong watch movement in brass instead of the usual silver.

This is my favorite piece and is for sale at: http://www.jewelryjeans.etsy.com/ If it doesn't sell it will go to the consignment store in PA where I ship my pieces.

COOL OFF 7.23.09

It is sooooooooooo hot here today..more to come..and days past. WHEW....the heat is early this year and lasting much longer.... SO.........enjoy this picture and let's take a dip.... The water is coming down from the mountains so I don't need to tell you how cold it is.........just looking at this seems to make it cooler...

ENJOY......and check out how blue...no enhancements have been done.

MARBELIZING WITH SMOKE

Several years ago Nancy Dale Kinney provided her technique directions for marbelizing with smoke on one of the Yahoo lists I was a member of. I love this effect.

SUPPLIES: 1" candle, candle holder, Tablespoon

DIRECTIONS:
The surface to be smoked must have already been prepped with the background color and dried. To smoke light a candle in a holder and allow to burn a few minutes until you have a good tall flame. Hold the scooped side of the tablespoon over the flame until you get a black carbon build up on the spoon. Practice moving the spoon around over the flame until you see a steady stream of black carbon or smoke rising above the spoon. I have found that the spoon must be almost perpendicular to the candle. If the candle has burned a few min. you will have a better flame. You must use the standard 1" diameter candle. This stream of smoke is what adheres to the project piece. Hold your piece over the stream of carbon, moving the piece around so that the carbon will adhere to various places. Be careful not to let the spoon touch the surface. When you get the desired result, immediately spray with the Krylon Matte 1311 or the Liberty Spray. You can always go back and smoke again if you want more smoke even if you have sprayed. What ever spray sealer that you end up using just be sure that you can paint with acrylic on top if that is the medium you are using. On larger pieces smoke sections, spray, allow to dry and then smoke other sections. Spray to avoid smudging. To give the marbelized porject a more interesting effect, I wash in touches of color where there is no smoke. Wipe excess paint from brush and blend into the smoked areas a little. Allow to dry.

PAINTING TIPS

REDUCING AND ENLARGING PATTERNS.
REDUCE: Divide the size of the pattern by the size you want. ie: Size is 10" and you want 6". Divide 10 by 6 and you get .60 or reduce by 60%.

ENLARGE: Size is 10" and you want 14". Divide 14 by 10 and you get 1.40. You would therefore enlarge by 140%.



HANDMADE WOOD FILLER:
Mix sawdust with Elmers glue



TO CRACKLE GLASS:
Paint with acrylics and put into refrigerator for a natural crackle.



STAIN CONVERSIONS TO *DELTA ACRYLICS:
Antique Oak *Walnut
Cherry *Red Iron Oxide
Fruitwood *Spice Brown/Red Iron Oxide
Modern Walnut *Dark Burnt Umber
Golden Oak *Spice Tan
Walnut *Brown Iron Oxide



LACEY QUILTED BACKGROUND:
Basecoat and let dry.
Apply a 2nd coat of paint with some extender to give a longer open time.
Wet a quilted paper towel, lay on surface and remove.
OTHER OPTIONS: Lace and Bubble Wrap



JO SONJA MAGIC MIX RECIPE
2 Parts JoSonja Glazing Medium
1 Part JoSonja Retarder

Landscape Painting Tips from: M Steven Doherty

The goal in a landscape painting is to create the sense of space.

Colors generally follow a prismatic progression from foreground to background.

Background colors should be on the blue/indigo/violet range of the spectrum with a bit of cool red added. Objects are smaller, have less contrast, are closer together (as in a fence) and have softer edges that blend together.

Foreground colors are green, yellow, red or ohre. Objects are larger and have contrast, texture and clarity.

** My thoughts. When riding in a car I am always looking at objects in relationship to one another, colors, clouds, and especially the look of a background, and take notes. I have a notepad and pencil in my purse where I jot down things as they come to me. For some reason when I am in a car sight takes over and my mind becomes the receiver as the secondary function and I love to become quiet and thoughtful. Riding is very relaxing.

I have also read/heard that if you use a color on one side of a landscape you should incorporate the color into the other side so that you have balance...and mix cool and warm colors for floral accents.

"Sarsparilla" Prim Bottle Cap Bracelet

I have been working on a bottlecap bracelet for a swap exchange and this evening I finished it up and am pleased with the way it turned out.

The antique photos are inside vintage grungy bottle caps, and a heavy clear plastic medium has been added to preserve the photos. I happened upon the Sarsparilla caps which became the name of the bracelet. I wire wrapped lampwork beads, used some tree limb beads, a couple of civil war underware buttons, clear grey glass hearts, and some small square woodsy looking beads in between the caps. The bottle caps and buttons are on some sort of fishing lure pin so that the bottle caps dangle a bit lower than the rest of the beaded items. To keep with the primitive look I wanted; all of the findings are gunmetal grey.

I am going to put together a few "kits" for making this bracelet on my Etsy site JewelryJeans in the next week if time allows. If you are interested keep an eye out for them..

Fun, floral photos.

The Lavender Festival in Hood River was a delightful experience. The weather was beautiful. A bit too warm for me, but hey, I will take it.

The lavender fields were gorgeous as you can see from the photos.

Much to my surprise and dismay, and unknown to me until today it "appears" I am allergic to lavender... Hand lotion used, lavender lemonade (which was delicious) and the fields were a bit too much .... My eyes are watering and tired as well as a sniff-ling nose.

Enjoy the photos........allergy free.

Click on the photos for a full screen look.

I'm In Love

Goodness how I love alpacas...how can you not with a face like this one?

This little guy was at one of the lavender farms in Hood River, OR today and if I could have brought him home with me I would have. They are such a fuzzy, soft ball of fur. Ahhhhhhhhhh.

Exercise Ball

I recently purchased an exercise ball to be used as my painting chair and goodness what a GREAT buy.

I actually believe it has helped my back as it forces me to sit straighter, tightens muscles, and in rolling around I find I do not get as "stiff" as I usually do.

The balls are purchased in sizes according to height so that you get the proper fit.....I purchased mine in Big 5 on sale for $14 and it is worth every penny.

I am even thinking I need to take it up from my studio to the living room for when I am beading in the evening watching/listening to tv....

Just as long as I don't fall asleep I will be fine......

Sandblaster

I love going to the hardware store with my hubby as I can browse to my hearts' content and he is never "hurrying me along". I love looking to see what there might be "I" can use in one of my artistic adventures, or to make life a bit easier.

Today it was sandpaper that is pliable; on a foam waffle backing so that it is flexible. They say it is "for a professional finish". It will be great on ornaments that are small, grooved areas, etc. I can hardly wait to try it. The "220 between coat"
pads are a real pretty wisteria purple....how neat is that...

There are 4 grades. Stripping, Bare Surfaces, Between coats and Final Finishing.

It is made by 3 M and you get 3 pads that are 5 1/2" by 2 1/4".

Finding Your Voice

Every artist dips his brush in his own soul and paints his own
nature into his pictures. by: Henry Ward Beecher

HOW:
1. Acquire Skills
2. Community
3. Develop your own voice

Artisans........ GOOD News

Ebay has reported that 13,137 HANDMADE craft items were sold in a 60 day period causing a 34% increase in this category.

I had hoped and dared to voice that this might happen so am delighted to see a statistical finding to identify this swing.

Hopefully we will see some information coming forth from Etsy.

People ARE helping PEOPLE.....

Happy Creating everyone......

Bearded Iris

This is the 3rd year for my bearded iris bulbs and what

a magnificent, colorful flower it has produced this year.

Enjoy.

Winter Bridge Design Painting

The photo is my finished painting using Acrylic paints vs oils.









I love this design artists' work and have been wanting to try some of her designs. She paints using oils and Bob Ross techniques so I knew that I was going to have to do some changes in colors as I went along: brush changes, etc. I love her "style" of painting and her design choices. Her techniques provide very realistic atmospheric paintings which are rewarding for myself and others as there is dimension, effect etc. rather than just flat final projects that I see with other landscape scenery design artists.

This particular design was in the December 2008 Quick and Easy Painting magazine and the artist is Patricia Reichenbach. She has had other designs published in Quick and Easy as well as PaintWorks so is a regular contributor/acceptee.

I used the Americana Decoart line of paints using Violet Haze, Forest Green, Baby Blue, Winter Blue, Sapphire, Fawn, Green Mist, Titanium White, Raw Sienna and Burnt Umber. Whoops,
forgot one of my favorite sky colors. Highlight Flesh which was
used here and there in the sky area. Do not overblend or you will
get mud and loose the color.

My brushes of choice for this particular painting was DD Paper 1/2 Scruffy , Debbie Mitchell Stipplers 1/2 and 1/4, Black Gold #4 Flat, Black Gold Micron Mini 15/o X long Detailer, and Black Gold 1/2 Angle. I painted the whole design with the exception of the tree, tree trunks and bridge detailing with the DD 1/2 Scruffy.
My only fault with the DD brush was the usual bristle loss while painting and having to go back with tweezers to remove the dried hairs. I was totally satisfied with what the brush provided to me so I am hoping that all the loose hairs are "out". I must have picked this particular brush up on clearance because it was a stiff bristle brush and a different "shape" as I do not purchase any of her line of brushes even when doing multiload techniques. I use the Dynasty Black Gold line of brushes. Being a hog hair bristle brush it worked great on the canvas board which was my surface choice for this particular piece. (Size was 9 x 12)

I also used Jo Sonja Retarder/Extender so that I had more open time when doing the cold, foggy, effect that was the main atmosphere of this painting. Atmosphere gives a painting so much more character and is so rewarding. When painting I used circular strokes rather than vertical to get the effect that Patricia had acomplished in her piece.

The only real change I made with the design was to do a reflected shadow on the left side of pine tree to the left of the design to add even more dimension to the piece and I was pleased with the result.

Now I have to go back through my magazines and "recover" the other designs she has done and make plans for another delightful learning, painting experience.

The next step is to find a matt and frame to complete this piece.

Thanks Patricia for such a wonderful "learning" design and I hope this helps those who are wanting to try the gorgeous design in acrylics.

Paper Bag Book

Well, my brown paper lunch bag book is on it's way to my exchange partner. Once I got everything lined up, purchased some scrapbooking paper, ribbon, etc. I was ready to go...go where. NOW WHAT...I thought. Thank goodness I received my book from Connie Barch so I was able to use hers as a guide. I have never scrapbooked...my artistic license is painting and altered art jewelry so this was definately "out of my comfort zone".

Using Connies book as a bit of a guide for "fu fu" I was on my way and what fun. When I looked up to check the time it was 2 AM.

I was thinking just one more page, just one more page. It was a challenge and makes me REALLY appreciate those who are paper artists... If you would like to see the pages of Connies book and my book you can go to:

http://www.picturetrail.com/hannahmaesporch to the first album which is "bag books".

I am now looking forward to the next exchange which will be "chocolate"..........whoopee.

Raindrops

We have been having beautiful spring rain in the afternoons and I love how green and fresh everythings looks. I love the rain, the thunder, the rain hitting the tin roof on our porch, the quiet after the rain, the smell. This afternoon I grabbed my camera and did some photo taking and this one is my favorite so I wanted to share the freshness of a raindrop.

Lavender Fields Forever

There are many uses for lavender from beauty products to teas and even used as a "flavoring" in/for food.

A guideline is to use lavender whenever a recipe calls for Rosemary and a good rule of thumb is to use about half the amount of lavender as you would if using rosemary. You should also purchase a Culinary lavender which is picked at the peak of the season. It is cleaned dried and packaged wtih gloves on.

Lavender is overpowering so it's use is "in moderation" in food
otherwise it becomes overpowering and perfumey in taste which
is not desirable.

Lavender is said to help insomnia by using a small sachet in your pillowslip. It is a natural moth repellant, essential oil keeps bee stings from itching and swelling and is said to have a calming effect relieving headaches and anxiety by rubbing essential oil on the temple area.

Sachet Potpourri
2 cups dreid lavender buds
1 cup rose petals
and a few drops of rose water ...
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Lavender Lemonade
Juice of 4 lemons
1 cup sugar
3 cups water (divided)
2 Tbsp. fresh or dried lavender flowers
Zest of 1/2 lemon
Combine sugar and 1 cup water in small sauce pan
Poil until sugar dissolves, remove from heat.
Add lavender flowers and lemon zest. Steep for 20 minutes then
strain.
Combine lemon juice, strained syrup and remaining 2 cups of water in a pitcher. Serve over ice garnished with a fresh lavender
sprig.
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Cedar Planked Salmon
1 untreated cedar plank
1-2 pound salmon filet
1/4 cup apple cider or rice wine vinegar
1/2 tsp. of paprika, garlic powder and cayenne pepper
1 tsp salt
1 Tbsp ground black pepper
1 Tbsp fresh or dried lavender buds
2 tsp. chpped fresh rosemary
1/4 cup cup lavender honey
spray bottle filled with water
Soak the cedar plank in water for at least 2 hours weighted down with a heavy pot.
Mix the spices and herbs with the vinegar in a large zip lock bag
Preheat grill. Place the salmon on the cedar plank and put on the top rack of the grill. Cook over medium high heat 20-30 minutes
until cooked thru. In the final 5 minutes of cooking, brush the salmon with the honey. IMPORTANT: The cedar plank will char easily. Use the spray bottle to mist with water frequently during cooking.
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Lavender Cookies
1 cup butter softened
1 cup sugar
1 egg, slightly beatern
1 1/2 cups self-rising flour
1 Tbsp dreid lavender flowers
Beat butter and sugar till fluffy. Add egg and stir to combine. Add flour and lavender. Stir until a soft dough is formed. Drop by teaspoons onto cookie sheets. Bake at 350 degrees 13-16 minutes on greased cookie sheet until edges become golden brown.

So there you have it. 4 totally different recipes for lavender....
Give one a try.

My Photo Isms Fractal Art

Copywrite 5/09 My personal ART.
Original Photo: Foxglove Stalk.

I have been doing what I have learned is fractal art using my photos and then using a fractal program that allows me to do all types of different applications to the photograph to alter it to my hearts content. This is my favorite one so far. I am going to have this enlarged and will mat and frame it for my spare bedroom which is done in these pastel colors.

My Photo Isms are available as 4 x 6 prints (larger are available upon request) and soon I will be listing them ATC size for collecting. http://www.smallworksofart.etsy.com/ This is so addicting, relaxing and such fun. It reminds me of the hours I was mesmerized by a kalidiscope when I was young. My favorite toy next to crayons.

Click on the photo to see it a bit larger.

My Granddaughter Meghan

Makeup by Mary Kay Thanks Dawn.

Tonight was our granddaughers' (she turned 17 in March) Prom and all I can say is WOW...isn't she just stunning...and don't they make the cutest couple? It was a stressfull day. The woman who was to cut her hair renigged, and I didn't expect to do a haircut so I did not come prepared. A pair of large material cutting Friskars and I did a kitchen haircut.... The florist did not do the boutineer...so one had to be made at the last minute and instead of just streaking Meghans hair ; at literally the last minute ,we decided to lighten it all...what a trooper she was. Fully confident, cool, calm and collected..Meghan. Nice to know she has "faith" in her ole' grandma and her mother. Michelle did her makeup and our cameras were just snapping away... She had a smile on her face as did Nick,,,so all turned out and they are having a good time...I am sure. She has to be the most beautiful girl at the Prom.

Silk Moths

These two photos were taken by my daughter V. Michelle who also loves taking pictures as much as I do and strives for the unusual. She may be one up on me for these two. One photo is of a single moth and the other photo is of two. ( I added larger photos for you to click on so the detail is clearer but it is not happening so if you want to see her original one that is clickable to larger go to: http://www.dragynsfyre.blogspot.com/) Check out the beautiful detail work on their bodies. They are furry, and Michelle says the body is black, red and white striped, and how about their antenae? She just called me a few minutes ago as she had her daughter "catch" them and put them in a cage so that my Son in law could see them when he gets home from work and the female has laid 9 eggs that Michelle says are about the size of seed beads......she said she actually got to see her lay them and the quick flutterings of the wings...how awesome. (Although I am sure I would have taken my picutre, ran inside the house and shut the door quick, rather than bring them into my home.....) They are beautiful but at the same time creepy....

The specie is prevalent in our area of Oregon. They are raised by

farmers for silk...but know of none here in our area....so this may

be something not of the norm.

Just had to share the pictures with those of you who follow my blog and are interested in what is here for us to be astounded by on a day to day basis and being able to catch the moment.

Enjoy....

I'm Coming Mom

Our little dog LOVES, the sand at the beach, the snow, dirt roads and green grass when she can just "let loose" and go as fast as her little legs will carry her to show her enthusiasm. I was so lucky to catch her ears on the upswing so you can tell just how fast she is coming. I love seeing her happy like this, enjoying life and getting some of the joy back that she gives us. So this is my funniest shot of the day.

COMING THROUGH

My favorite photo of todays "shooting" is this one I call Coming Through which was taken at my friend Nancy's house. The greenery, the fence, the light and shadows...just a pretty little picture.

Spent Danderlions

I was surprised the way this turned out----I love these weeds and especially when they are spent and ready to fly away.....

Painterly Style

Some people regard an expressive or painterly style to be less than finished. But it's not a style of painting where the end result is smooth and glossy like a photograph. It's a style which celebrates the materials made to create it: paint and a brush. The result only a painter could produce.

When I paint a landscape/scenery I love the way the impressionistic style finishes. A photograph is a photograph...and I see many painters who's finished work looks just like this....a photograph and that is not what I am out to achieve. It is not a matter of right or wrong but a matter of personal preference/technique/style, etc. I think this is why I use slip slap strokes when I paint as often as I can because I feel the mixture
of the colors provides the interest I am looking for....and a more realistic painting vs smooth and sleek.

Taking Good Photos

r Taking good photos is more than just "snapping the picture" and hoping for the best. Think about light source just as you do when you are painting. Frame with your eye, the image on your screen or through your view finder. Have eyestoppers that will keep you "in" the picture and not sliding off the sides/top or bottom. Once again just like when you paint. If you find you cannot focus on the subject in the viewfinder you won't be able to once you have taken the picture.

I love my digital camera which is an 18x Optical Zoom Panasonic Lumix FZ18. Your photos will only be as good as the options your camera has..... I love capturing nature, using my photos for reference and matting/framing for art in my home so a good camera is something that is really important to me.

Blue Spruce

I love the color of new blue spruce evergreen pine needles. These look almost irridescent to me, and such a gorgeous, beautiful shade of blue green.

Spring has Sprung in Photos

I love taking pictures. It seems as if just overnight our fruitless cherry tree bloomed. Sunday it was green and today

this is what I see. GORGEOUS and the smell is just heavenly. My lilacs are also leafed and blooming so hopefully I will have flowers soon. Our temperatures have been 80 and above for about 4 days. The birds are just soar, nose dive and frolic in the front of the house as if they are also celebrating spring. Click on the photos so they will enlarge for a better view.

New Design DVD by Jillybean

I just got an email from Jillybean and she has an awesome new DVD out for a snow leopard. It is absolutely gorgeous. Right now she is offering it as a special. You can see it and her other art at:

http://jillybean.net/

While you are there take a look at her free download sheets for the new butterfly brushes from Dynasty. I purchased my brushes awhile ago and just have not had time to "play"....soon I hope.

Painting Skies and Clouds

Oregon Sunset (copywrite 2009)


There is more to painting clouds that just the brush to be used. Once you learn techniques you can use just about any type of brush you find comfortable. I have used a dry brush, angle, filbert, etc. to paint clouds. A lot depends on the type of cloud, the season of the year and the effect desired when choosing a brush type.

There is not just one type of cloud, and clouds are not just white any more than a sky is just blue.

I use my camera a lot to provide me with a scrapbook of examples and living in both OR and PA have provided me a lot of differences that are helpful.

I have found that my "best luck" has come from painting wet on wet. Painting in this manner allows you to mix and/or blend your colors and create soft edges easily. My mediums of choice are the
line of mediums by Brenda Harris. They are awesome. You do not want clouds that appear to be setting on top of your background color as I see so often. Soft edges and color mixes, as well as wet on wet allows you to not just paint a sky with white clouds; but clouds that reflect the rest of your design and seem to blend in with the sky. Through experimentation and practice you will be able to achieve many different looks. I also use a dry brush (as it is a bit stiffer) or if that doesn't work an artist signature brush
Maxines' Mop.

Use colors such as crimson, ochre, umbers, and different shades of blue to create and duplicate the beauty of nature. I especially like to use Paynes grey in a stormy sky for winter or rainy skies.
Use a color such as raw sienna, or burnt umber in your sky if you are using it in your main design in a house, barn, etc.

Also of importance is to remember perspective. Cloud formations are narrower, smaller and lighter the further away they are, or easier to remember: the closer they are to your horizon line.

Fade your edges out into a thinner, wispier line. Make your cloud formation smaller at the beginning and end.

My choice for brushes 9 times out of 10 is from one of the Dynasty lines of brushes. I love the quality, the way it feels in my hand, and the way it performs.

TYPES OF CLOUDS....
Cumulus: Strong winds seem to form these clouds so you want a lot of action when you paint working faster and a bit choppier. I like to do slipslap for this type of action sky. Random x strokes in different sizes and different directions.
Stratus: Sweeping, horizontal and long clouds which are more parallel...almost a ribbon like appearance.
Cirrus: Clouds which are high in the atmosphere, feathery with a windswept appearance. Work lightly between brush and surface to get the wispy effect that suggests this type of cloud formation.
With these clouds you may want to glaze a bit of red, orange or
ochre color to give just the suggestion of color. This can be done
using a transparent color and some of Brenda Harris' Clear medium as a mix.

Clouds are all about achieving "effect" rather than just painting a cloud in a blue sky. There are many elements to be considered. Just a brush choice is not the only choice in a successful, realistic
painting.

Newest Art Pieces and a Challenge

I love working on smaller canvas pieces and these are 2 of my newest pieces. The mountain scene is 4"x 6" (from a photo of the Cascade Mt. range here in Bend, OR) and the patriotic butterfly is ATC size. It is hard to "scale down" but I love smaller.

MY CHALLENGE:
I am just beginning what is called a paper bag altered art book which promises a lot of frustration until I get
"underway". My theme for the book will be Central OREGON and it is for an exchange. I am hoping she will be kind on my first venture into the world of "paper"...

I love making altered art jewelry. The above two photos are my favorite rings which are being sent to a shop in Pennsylvania to a new Handmade Boutique (which is opening up on Route #6) along with about 15 other pieces of altered art jewelry necklaces, pins and a delightful vintage watch and lampwork bracelet.

I love the fact that I can change my art forms when I get a "fancy" to.

Karon's lampwork bracelets

These two bracelets are a first time attempt by

my friend Karon who lives "up the way" from me.

She chose the handmade lampwork beads from my daughters' Etsy site (http://www.dragynsfyre.etsy.com/) The beads were made in her SunRiver, OR lampwork studio using colored Italian Marretti Glass rods)

according to what she felt her daughter and a friend from CA would choose and then we designed the bracelets to match their personalities. Karon learned how to build the bracelet to fit, when to use a spacer or a beadcap and many other tibits of jewelry making. We used Swarowski crystals, pearls, Tierra Cast clasps, spacers, etc. made right here in the USA that are top of the line in quality.

I think she did a great job and when she was done she had a beautiful "piece of art".

It is so much fun to get together with friends and work on projects. You chat, solve the worlds' problems, laugh a lot and just have a wonderful fun filled few hours of sharing with another. individual. It doesn't get much better than this.

NOTE: If you click on the bracelet pictures they will enlarge and you can see them much better.

Interesting Tibit on Shading/Transparency

When shading use a transparent color. To check for transparency of a color....use a newspaper. Swipe your brush across the print with the color you are thinking of using. If it colors the newspaper and you can still read the print..the color is transparent and a good shading color. If you cannot read the print, the color is opaque (contains white) and you would not want to use this color. Thanks Margot Clark for this great information.

Small Easel and Sky

I am really enjoying the smaller canvases but my big easel just

wasn't "working". Then I discovered this recipe box/holder in my stash and it works like a "charm". Something made for something entirely else working in our little painting world is

"a good thing", don't you think? I drape a paper towel over the front of the piece (which at this time is just the raw pine surface)

and paint away.

I have taken a picture of the canvas I am working on with the

sky portion completed...I am delighted with the way it has turned out and the sad part? Not a lot will be "showing" because of the design in the foreground (yet to be done) so this photo will help as a guide for a landscape design in the future. The sky shows how my little easel works.... I will be offering some pattern packets soon that will provide some instructions on how to do some easy "but special" "things" so stay tuned.

AND....the sky was painted on the fine art canvas board that I love which are handmade, tube acrylics, and a plain ole' angle brush (Black Gold brand) doing slip slap strokes.

So if you are hooked on "smaller" look for the surface, grab an angle and "do it" too.